Know your pickup artists: Various
Running down the gauntlet…
Let’s do something a little different today. Let’s get a little more brief with the profiles so we can get to my conclusion (in the next post) about WHY I’m writing about all these guys and move on. Some of these guys’ materials I am very familiar with, and others not so much. Whether they call themselves pickup artists or something else, let’s run down a few more guys…
Tyler Durden
No, not the guy from Fight Club…it’s the alias of Owen Cook, a controversial character in Neil Strauss’s book The Game. While he didn’t come off well in that book, I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that people grow up and that it was only one point of view of the whole situation. I have only seen some video of one of Tyler’s workshops and to be honest, it didn’t really offer me anything that I hadn’t heard before from others. But other guys apparently are very positive about his stuff, so check him out at Real Social Dynamics if you’re curious.
David Wygant
Finally, a guy using his regular name! (Or at least, I believe so…sometimes you can never tell with these guys.) David is not of the pickup artist variety, he is advertised as a dating coach who teaches not only men how to be their best, but also women and teenagers. I’ve seen the guy on a VH-1 documentary and he does come over as very confident and very likeable. He promotes being natural. I can’t speak for any of his coaching or products, but you can check them out at his website. He also writes a great blog that’s worth throwing into your RSS reader.
Mehow
Mehow is an instructor closely associated with Mystery and friends, but not of the same product. He runs his own deal called Mehow.tv which features video of conversations and interactions with women playing on his XBOX360 in his living room while him and a group of guys evaluate the situation. Of what I’ve seen of his videos, they differ from Mystery’s as the camera is hidden on a separate guy nearby and the women apparently aren’t aware they’re being filmed. So it’s very interesting to see how the conversations go down. If you didn’t figure it out already, once again his site is Mehow.tv.
Bob Ross
Bob Ross was a painter who hosted of The Joy of Painting, a show that continues to play in syndication today. Bob’s inspir…. …… ……err, whoops. Sorry, wrong “artist.”
Although I gotta wonder….in bed do you think he grunted that he “beat the devil out of it” when pounding her “happy little forest?” Err….nevermind.
Ross Jeffries
Okay…this is the right “Ross.” Billed as “the father of the seduction community,” Ross has been around for a long time…long enough before the rise of the internet pickup community. He had a role in The Game as one of Neil Strauss’s mentors and went through a spat with Mystery. He’s a bit different as he practices NLP (neuro-linguistic programming) which appeals to a woman’s good feelings. He doesn’t always come off well with me as he’s know to get into fights/arguments with whomever comes onto “his turf,” very apparent on the Dr. Phil episode I wrote about months ago. I can’t speak for what he sells because I don’t know much about it. If you’re interested, his site is Speed Seduction.
Paul Janka
Ah, I like this guy. Paul Janka speaks with blunt honesty…whether you like the answer or not. I first saw him on his infamous The Today Show segment during the live broadcast by luck. The hosts/”expert” in the segment tried their damndest to paint him as a manipulator and sex addict (which by their old and out-of-touch beliefs qualifies 98% of the population). The interviewer named off a bunch of negative things that imaginary women thought about him but Janka didn’t falter. (“I don’t know what women you’re speaking of.”) Indeed…somehow I don’t think Janka’s women are complaining much…is it really so hard to believe that women TOO don’t always want a commitment and just have some fun and pleasure? I also agree with him that he’s not responsible if they misunderstand his intentions. In turn, too many guys misunderstand women’s intentions and get clingy too quick, causing her to bolt…but you’ll never see this on the Today Show or Oprah. Anyway, Paul’s written some stuff and you can check him out here.
David DeAngelo
Real name Eben Pagan, David D is probably the best known marketer in the seduction community through his Double Your Dating product line. He puts out everything from an eBook to a CD audio series. Want more? Get the MASTER audio series. Oh, and don’t forget about a cocky comedy CD, interviews CD and much more. This guy isn’t rich for nothing. But he’s not dumb either, much of his words is sound advice and David D is more natural with a “cocky funny” approach (similar to “negging” in a way). Check him out at doubleyourdating.com, or you can read his advice column for free on AskMen.com.
Player Supreme
Little known, Player Supreme is a former pimp / now fitness instructor and motivational speaker named Chris Arnett who runs the website zenmack.com. He is very vocal and outspoken against the scripted pickup game and advocates a natural, sexual approach and only approaching women who are “choosing you” (favorable eye contact) as opposed to running up to random women right and left. He also promotes getting into shape to improve confidence, testosterone and enhanced male energy and sexuality. He runs a free podcast that can be found on iTunes along with a $5/ month forum where he is frequently posting even more exclusive podcasts (sometimes almost daily) and always interacts with members. Despite his tough love drill instructor approach, I believe his sincerity to help men and his inexpensive sources of advice makes his materials absolutely accessible to all people, young men in high school and college included. Once again, find him at zenmack.com.

David Wygant Says:
July 25th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Hey
That is my real name!!!
I think silly knicknames are for little boys!
So David Wygant will always be David Wygant,
Thanks for the mention and look forward to seeing you on my blog.
The Virgin Says:
July 25th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
> “I think silly knicknames are for little boys!”
Oh man, I think I’m in a lot of trouble then…I even share the same nickname with younger boys